The Unreliability of Radiometric Dating
By Jon Covey, B.A., MT(ASCP)
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| Apollo Sample | Ages in Billions of Years | Age Inconsistencies | ||
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| Number | Uranium-Thorium-Lead Method | Potassium-Argon Method | Extremes in Billions of Years | |
| Low | High | |||
| 10017 | 3.60 | 4.79 | 2.2 | 2.59 |
| 10057 | 3.96 | 4.17 | 2.3 | 1.87 |
| 10060 | 3.36 | 5.76 | -- | 2.40 |
| 10084 | 4.31 | 8.20 | >7 | 3.89 |
| 12070 | 3.63 | 4.50 | >7 | >3.37 |
| 12032 | 3.38 | 4.40 | >7 | >3.62 |
| 12063 | 3.75 | 4.09 | 2.6 | 1.49 |
| 12013 | 0.7* | 4.6 | >6 | >5.3 |
| 14310 | 5.3 | 11.2 | -- | 5.9 |
| 14053 | 5.4 | 28.1 | -- | 22.7 |
| 15426 | 4.6 | 16.2 | -- | 11.6 |
| 66095 | 5.6 | 14.1 | -- | 8.5 |
| * Age determination using a Uranium-Thorium/Helium Technique | ||||
These are the results the investigators were willing to publish. It is often the case that discordant dates are withheld, ignored, or thrown out. Then when the accepted dates are presented, the comment is "See how close these results are in agreement with previous determinations!" Of course, they are going to be in agreement. How could they be anything else when discrepant dates are thrown out? Brent Dalrymple (USGS) excluded the discrepant moon rock dates from his book Age of the Earth. He affirmed that all the dates obtained from moon rocks agreed with one another within a few million years at most.
Andrew Snelling, a geologist committed to creationism, questions the validity of radiometric dating procedures designed to produce isochrons. [Snelling, 1994] Isochron dating is supposed to be the most reliable means for getting the correct age of a rock and for assuring that the age is correct. The isochron methods have a built-in checking system.
When scientists are dating a rock sample, Faure points out that there are several sources of laboratory error, which can greatly affect the results obtained. Lets assume that the laboratories doing the dating have reliably overcome the obstacles and concentrate on more difficult problems in dating a rock.
If the ages of rocks measured in a laboratory do not agree with the assumed ages of the strata in which they were found (based on the index fossils), the dates are considered wrong and are usually discarded. If geologists find a rock in a Cambrian formation, its measured age must be near the 500-570 million year range, plus or minus 50 million years to be acceptable (some labs are more generous).
Faure says the most likely uncorrected laboratory error is unconfirmed lab results because the methods are time consuming, "which discourages replication of analyses and thereby results in inadequate documentation of analytical errors." [Faure, pp. 62-63]
If this is true, not many geologists spend the extra time and money to verify their results. What geologists often do if a date falls too far outside the predetermined age range, is either to discard the result or to declare the date discordant. There are established methods for deciding whether a result is discordant. Faure provides some basic guidelines for establishing "concordia" and "discordia," e.g., Uranium-Lead systems. [Faure, pp. 291-304].
Efforts are made to minimize laboratory errors, but they do crop up, and they probably crop up with greater frequency that the laboratories would like to admit. In summarizing his chapter on Uranium, Thorium-Lead methods of dating, he says that in many cases the resulting dates are discordant due to loss of Lead or Uranium.
Almost everyone knows that uranium decays into lead, and that it takes 4.5 billion years for half the uranium to decay. This is its half-life. The ratio of daughter to parent isotopes in a sample might represent an age relationship. If a rock contained no Lead-206 when it first formed, one can assume that the lead either came from the decay of Uranium-238 or water carried it in and deposited it in the rock. If the half-life of the parent is known and the laboratory determines the quantity of parent and daughter isotopes, they can be reliably converted into number of years.
As an example, let's suppose we have a sample and find that it has twice as much lead as it does uranium. What are the assumptions we must make about this sample? According to Faure, we must assume the following things to date something using the uranium/lead methods [Faure, pp. 287-288]:
Response: No one knows what the initial concentrations were. That is why they must be assumed. What one assumes is often colored by one's belief about the age of the earth.
Response: This is an unrealistic assumption. Faure admits that in many cases the resulting dates are discordant due to loss or gain of Lead or Uranium. Uranium, radium and lead salts are soluble in water. No one knows how much of each has been transported in or out of the rocks. Radon, a gaseous daughter isotope of uranium, is constantly leaking into our homes from the rocks below. Faure says that each minute per square centimeter 42 radon atoms escape into the atmosphere [Faure, 374]. The radon escapes from the rocks geochronologists assume are closed. Obviously, the rocks are not closed. Loss of radon from rocks implies that the determined ages of rocks are too young.
Robert Gentry, a leading authority on radiohalos, crossed over into the forbidden territory of creationism after he discovered the existence of primordial polonium halos in the 1970s and has been shunned by his peers ever since. According to Gentry, primordial polonium halos in granite and other basement rocks of the earth prove that the earth was formed instantaneously. [Gentry, 1992] Evolutionary geologists wishing to refute the origin of polonium halos argued that the polonium was transported from uranium radiocenters either by water flow through the radiocenters or by the escape of radon gas from those centers. If they are willing to admit such mobility in solid granite, they must also be willing to say that granite rocks are not closed to the migration of radioisotopes. (See the articles at Polonium Pleochroic Halos and Creation's Tiny Mysteries for further discussion on polonium halos and their significance for rapid creation of earths basement rocks.)
Leads mobility increases with increased temperature and pressure. Robert Gentry examined zircons from drill core samples and reported that the lead concentrations are essentially the same both near the surface and from great. Temperature increases with depth in the earth. At a depth of 15,000 feet, the temperature is 313° C (595° F). Both lead and helium would quickly leak out of zircons at that temperature. According to conventional geology, this material was supposed to be about 1.5 billion years old. The amount of lead and helium in the zircons should have decreased rapidly with depth because heat speeds their escape from zircons. Gentry examined drill cores of granite from New Mexico. He noticed that the amount of lead retained in zircons at 960 meters depth was the same amount found at 4310 meters (see zircon/lead table). [Gentry, 1982] Helium concentration at a depth of 9500 feet was still surprisingly high for rock that was supposed to be 1.5 billion years old.
Response: There is no way for us to know that this assumption is right for all time. Neutrino bursts from supernovae can accelerate the decay rate by further destabilizing the nuclei of radioactive isotopes. There is an ongoing debate whether the speed of light is slowing down. [Aardsma, Humprheys] If the speed of light is slowing down, this would slow the decay rates of radioactive materials.
Response: This is probably the safest assumption, but even it must be questioned. Are we to assume that when the world first formed from interstellar debris that the uranium isotopes were consistent regardless of when the supernovae creating them exploded? Is it correct to assume that each supernova created the same mix of isotopes? May we also assume that the molten earth allowed for thorough mixing so that the isotopic ratios are consistent throughout the world? Magma flows are seldom, if ever, homogeneous. To assume the entire planet was homogeneous is wrong.
Response: Possibly the results are free of errors, but the assumptions used in radiometric dating always predominate in any test. It seems that "concordia" is not entirely independent of the underlying assumptions used in radiometric dating. What ratio of parent and daughter isotopes were originally present when the rock first formed? How much of each made up the material that became the earth from supernovae occurring long ago? When did those supernovae occur? There may be independent methods, but they all depend on prejudicial assumptions.
Is the first assumption valid? How accurately can the initial concentrations of parent and daughter isotopes be known? One's assumptions about the age of the earth are going to affect the assumptions made about the initial concentration of lead. If you believe the earth is very young or recently created, you will assume that most of the lead was there from the creation. If you believe the earth is billions of years old, you will assume that much of the lead wasn't there initially and is the result of uranium decay over billions of years. How old one thinks the earth is will determine which assumption is made about the initial quantity of lead. If one assumes the earth is 10 billion years old, then the assumed amount of initial lead will be less than what one will assume if it is believed the earth is only five billion years old.
We cannot assume that initially there was no lead in the earth's crust. First, it is assumed that no element heavier than lithium was formed in the Big Bang. [Silk] Early in 1992, researchers began to doubt this. Theoretically, all the elements up to and including iron can be created during the normal energy producing process of a star, which is called thermonuclear fusion (thermo = heat; nuclear = of an atom's nucleus; fusion = fusing together). It is during this process that nucleosynthesis occurs (when the nucleus of a heavier atom is synthesized by the fusion of two nuclei of lighter atoms).
If the universe did begin with a Big Bang, all the elements heavier than iron had to be created in supernova explosions, because the production of heavier elements by fusion does not release energy, as it allegedly does during the fusion process of the lighter elements. Instead, production of heavier elements requires more energy than stars can normally produce. This is why so much energy is released when atoms of uranium are split in nuclear fission: the enormous energy it took to bind that nucleus is freed [Spitzer]. After a star explodes in a supernova, creating uranium and many other elements, the radioactive decay process of uranium to lead could begin. Since evolutionists assume the universe is 13-20 billion years old, much of the initial uranium produced by dying first and second generation stars decayed into radiogenic lead long before the creation of the earth. Most of the radiogenic lead in the earth's crust was generated before the birth of our planet. (If we can detect the neutrino burst from 1987A supernova, we should be able to detect solar neutrinos. However, through decades of neutrino counting, it is clear than not enough neutrinos are being detected to prove that the sun is powered by nuclear fusion. This brings up the question of what really motivated scientists to reject Kelvins and Helmholtz suggestion that the sun was powered mainly by gravitational contraction--a process which puts an 15-30 million year upper limit on the age of the sun.)
Then over an unknown period of time (several million to several billion years--we have no way of knowing), interstellar gas and dust coalesced into the sun and planets as the result of gravitational attraction. Assuming that the universe's age is 15-20 billion years, some of the lead in the earth's crust decayed from uranium long before it became part of the earth. Uranium doesn't care where it is. It will decay in space just as readily in a rock or a star. This long period of interstellar residency would see the extinction of short and medium-lived isotopes, such as polonium since they would decay to lead long before reaching the earth.
Joseph Silk and other astronomers think our sun is a third generation star: the product of the Big Bang and two successive periods of star formation and supernovas. This means the uranium decay actually began 10-15 billion years ago, depending how old the universe is and if the universe began by a Big Bang. This uranium decay would result in the production of more lead in the universe than there is uranium. If uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years, the universe is two or three U-238 half-lives old, so there should be much more lead than uranium. There are so many unknowns at this point, to make an assumption about the initial lead in the earth's crust simply reveals one's philosophical bias. But now we can ask how much Lead-206 and U-238 are there?
The second assumption Faure says we must make is that the sample tested has remained closed to uranium, thorium, lead, and all intermediate daughters throughout its history. There is not even a remote possibility that this is true. Uranium salts are soluble in water containing dissolved oxygen under pressure. These salts migrate readily, both on the surface and underground. The radioactive substances in granite are found mainly on the grain surfaces of the rock crystals. This is in accordance with the principle of fractional crystallization, which is discussed later in the chapter.
Some suppose that a diligent and careful statistical analysis of the dates obtained from numerous rock samples will define a mean into which the vast majority of dates will fall. This is naive thinking, as the next section on age inconsistencies shows. How old can we say the moon is when a dozen samples ranging from millions of years to 28 billion years are recorded?
Most uniformitarians assume that the fossil record indicates several billion years of geological history.
Faure wrote,
The conventional K-Ar method of dating depends on the assumption that the sample contained no argon at the time of its formation and that subsequently all radiogenic argon produced within it was quantitatively retained. Because argon may be lost by diffusion even at temperatures well below the melting point, K-Ar dates represent the time elapsed since cooling to temperatures at which diffusion of argon is insignificant [Faure, p. 93].
Potassium decays to a gas called argon. Faure begins his discussion by saying that it is assumed that the sample submitted for analysis had no radiogenic argon immediately after complete crystallization of the rock, because all argon outgassed prior to solidification. That is only one assumption that is made during the dating process. That assumption is not correct. Each dating scheme has it's own set of assumptions and problems associated with it, but for the sake of brevity, I will concentrate only on the K-Ar method.
In his chapter on K-Ar dating, Faure says the following additional assumptions must be made:
Response: Gaseous argon can easily escape wherever microfractures exist in rock. This relates to a very complicated argument Robert Gentry put forth in the scientific literature starting around 1967. Gentry was made a visiting scientist position at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and given grants by the National Science Foundations. During his tenure there, he made an important discovery that had far reaching ramifications in the creation/evolution debate. A few opponents of Gentry claimed that polonium halos resulted from the removal of uranium daughter products from uranium radiocenters via water flow through microfissures in granitic rocks or by the flow of gaseous radon, a daughter product of uranium decay which decays into polonium. According to them, this is why it appears that the polonium was not associated with uranium radiocenters. Both of these explanations could not convincingly account for the focused halos resulting from discrete point sources of polonium, since these methods of transport would have caused smearing of the halos as some of the polonium atoms decayed in transit. This is because the half-life of Po-218 is only 3.05 minutes, and the half-life of Po-214 is 164 microseconds. The halos result from alpha particle damage to the crystal lattice of the surrounding rock as the polonium decays. It takes approximately 100 million atoms to produce the spherical halos in the biotite crystals surrounding the radiocenters. The brunt of Gentry's hypothesis was that if the earth was molten at some time in its history, how could there be any polonium halos independent of uranium radiocenters? Even if the entire universe had consisted of polonium-218, about six hours later all of it would be Po-210, lead, and helium. The granite could never have been molten, otherwise the Po-218 halos would have been wiped out because it takes far more than six hours for molten granite to cool to a solid. As it turned out concerning Gentry's findings, it was not the criticism by evolutionists that brought about the demise of Gentry's claim that granite was the original creation rock. Rather, creationists, knowing that sedimentary rock generated on day three of the creation week would be void of fossils. If sedimentary rocks containing fossils were found containing granite intrusions from granitic magma, Gentry's claim for granite would be repudiated. This is because fossil-bearing (fossiliferous) sedimentary rocks had to be formed after life was created. I was saddened to see Gentry's hypothesis refuted. Maybe Gentry's hypothesis can be salvaged. Perhaps the fossiliferous sediment has not been intruded by the granite. Instead, what happened is that the Flood water deposits were conformably deposited around denuded granite. One aspect that needs to be thoroughly research is whether the granite is intrusive or overlaid.
He says that these assumptions require careful evaluation in each case and place certain restrictions on the geological interpretation of K-Ar dates. He says that the last two assumptions are quite general in scope and express certain fundamental conditions of dating by any method based on radioactivity. The isotopic composition of potassium in natural samples is believed to be constant, even though fractionation of potassium isotopes has been observed on a small scale across contacts of igneous intrusion.
A correction needs to be on this point. Fractional crystallization can greatly vary the isotopic composition in any igneous formation, even potassium, as Faure says [Faure, p. 68]. For example, Tarbuck and Lutgens mention that feldspar crystals will have calcium-rich interiors surrounded by zones that are progressively richer in sodium, especially if the rate of cooling occurs rapidly enough to prohibit the complete transformation [Tarbuck]. This must be true of rocks of all composition, in accordance with the Bowen's reaction. Denial of this would render the doctrine of fractional crystallization meaningless.
Ways argon can be lost from a rock before dating [Faure, p. 69]:
Faure outlines further problems with the K-Ar dating method [Faure, p. 72]:
There are many other problems associated with the K-Ar dating method, but the above gives one an idea of great the problems are. Presently, there is far more Ar-40 than the decay of K-40 could have produced in 4.5 billion years.
What could the initial concentration of Strontium-87 (Sr-87) have been? There is more than ten times as much Sr-87 than could have been produced by rubidium-87 (87Rb) decay over five billion years.
Gunter Faure says that fractional crystallization of magma and separation of crystals from the remaining liquid result in the formation of suites of comagmatic igneous rocks of differing chemical composition (and I say for the reasons I just gave above--and a few more!). All the rock specimens taken from this magma suite, when tested for their concentrations of strontium (Sr) and rubidium (Rb) and plotted on a graph, will plot as points on a straight line in the x,y coordinates, where x is the ratio of 87Rb/Sr-86 and y is the ratio of Sr-87/Sr-86.
This straight line is called an "isochron" because each point represents the various parts of the rock that cooled essentially at the same time and therefore have the same age. Faure says that it must be assumed that all the diverse rocks that formed from the magma had the same initial strontium 87/86 ratios (which may or may not be true). This gets rid of the problem of fractional crystallization, and the age of the rock can be calculated.
It is assumed that the rock from which the samples were taken did not have a loss or gain of daughter and parent isotopes after crystallization. Noticeable deviations from the isochron are probably a reflection of outside contamination or loss of isotopes through one or another means.
The isochron dating method is popular with geochronologists because it is not necessary to know the initial concentrations of parent and daughter isotopes. The assumptions that are made are:
Y.F. Zheng at the Geochemical Institute (University of Gottingen, Germany) made the following observations:
The Rb-Sr isochron method has been one of the most important approaches in isotopic geochronology. But some of the basic assumptions of the method are being questioned at the present time. As first developed the method assumed a system to have: (1) the same age; (2) the same initial Sr-87/Sr-86 ratio; and (3) acted as a closed system. Meanwhile, the goodness of fit of experimental data points in a plot of Sr-87/Sr-86 vs. 87Rb/Sr-86 served as a check of these assumptions. However, as the method was gradually applied to a large range of geological problems, it soon became apparent that a linear relationship between Sr-87/Sr-86 and 87Rb/Sr-86 ratios could sometimes yield an anomalous isochron which had no distinct geological meaning. A number of anomalous isochrons have been reported in the literature and various terms have been invented, such as apparent isochron, secondary isochron, inherited isochron, source isochron, erupted isochron, mixing line, and mixing isochron. Even a suite of samples, which do not have identical ages and initial Sr-87/Sr-86 ratios, can be fitted to isochrons, such as aerial isochrons. [Zheng]
On page 2 of his paper he wrote:
"Evidently the theoretical basis of the classical Rb-Sr isochron is being challenged and some limitations of its basic assumptions are being revealed....Some of what this paper contains is not new to isotopic geochronologists, but it is drawn together here for the first time and is placed in a context within unifying general models for Rb-Sr dating."
Changes in the initial concentrations of Rb and Sr are possible. Flow of hot water through the rock is one of several important means, as Zheng admits:
"In some cases, gain or loss of Rb and Sr from the rocks is so regular that a linear array can be produced on the conventional isochron diagram and a biased isochron results from the altered rocks to give spurious age and initial Sr-87/Sr-86 estimates," [Zheng, p. 13]
At the beginning of his paper, he wrote:
As it is impossible to distinguish a valid isochron from an apparent isochron in the light of Rb-Sr isotopic data alone, caution must be taken in explaining the Rb-Sr isochron age of any geological system.
He equally applies the problem to the uranium-lead (U-Pb) and the in vogue samarium-neodymium (Sm-Nd) isochron methods. He concludes his paper with:
"In conclusion, some of the basic assumptions of the conventional Rb-Sr isochron method have to be modified and an observed isochron does not certainly define a valid age information for a geological system, even if a goodness of fit of the experimental data points is obtained in plotting Sr-87/Sr-86 vs. 87Rb/Sr-86. This problem cannot be overlooked, especially in evaluating the numerical time scale. Similar questions can also arise in applying the Sm-Nd and U-Pb isochron methods."
Henry Morris published a long list of geochronometers [Morris], regular, clock-like processes by which the age of the earth might be measured. These processes are unknown, ignored, or unjustifiably spurned by evolutionists simply because they provide ages too short to allow for evolution.
The common salt (NaCl) content of the oceans increases all the time. Every year rain, snow, and groundwater flow dissolves a certain amount of salt and transports it to the oceans by rivers and streams. If one assumes that about the same amount of salt is carried to the ocean each year, the time it would take to bring the oceans to their present saltiness if initially they had been fresh water would be about 62 million years [Austin]. This does not mean the earth is 62 million years old, but it does place an upper limit on the age of the oceans. Because sodium chloride is so soluble in water, it is easily dissolved out of the soil and rocks. There is no mechanism that returns salt to the land in quantities remotely comparable to the amount entering the oceans.
Evolutionists responding to this paper insist that sodium is absorbed into the sediments. Some of this does occur, but is it reasonable to assume that the huge quantities of sodium accumulated in the oceans for more than 4 billion years are removed in this way? Recycling of sodium on this scale would require ocean sediments to be subducted under the continents, melted and redistributed at or near the surface of the continents as basalts. Recycling of sodium by this means would imply that most continental crust would have to consist of basalt instead of granite.
Radiometric dating methods, as you have seen, are not so straight forward or cut and dried as geochronologists would like us (John Q. Public) to believe. There are other geochronometers (age clocks) that show the earth is very young. Henry Morris' book, The Biblical Basis for Modern Science, lists 68 geochronometers showing the earth to be young, such as,
Of course, evolutionary geochronologists reject these things, because they show the earth to be young. A person's philosophical bias determines which are acceptable geochronometers. It has nothing to do with the reasonableness of the method.
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